Speaker 0 00:04 Hi and welcome to that makes total sense. The podcast where we talk about faith, finance and everyday life in a way that makes total sense. I'm your host Alexis BU city. On this podcast, you'll hear the personal stories of friends I'll be interviewing who are doing familiar things in new and innovative ways. We'll answer questions specifically about money and our relationship with it and we'll explore faith and Bible teaching together. In all of these. It's not about changing our convictions as much as it is about messing with our methods. We'll have a lot of moments here together where we pause and say, that makes total sense.
Speaker 0 00:44 Hi, I'm Alexis <inaudible> and welcome to a super special episode of that makes total sense. I have a special guest. He's movie important day in my life and I'm going to let him say hi before I introduce him. So special guest. Hey everybody. This is my hubby, dubs Seth. So usually Seth is the producer of the podcast. Uh, I say usually always he is going to produce this episode right after we get done recording. But today I wanted to have him on because we're just going to talk a little bit about an article that he wrote a couple of years ago for the site and it gets traffic every single day. It's the only thing on our site that gets traffic every single day. Um, so I want to talk about it for a second. It's actually called something like, I'll link it. It's called how to tide Oh five ways to tide when you're between churches.
Speaker 0 01:44 So before we were sequestered for Cobin 19, I thought this would be a great topic. We'll have Seth on. We'll go back and forth. We'll talk about it. So then the world changed kind of overnight. So normally when we have the podcast, I've recorded these episodes weeks in advance and they just come out on a schedule. But today we're recording for the one that you're going to hear tomorrow, Monday. And I thought, let's still talk about this topic, what kind of use this article and the five ways that you could tie between churches and we'll talk about how to be generous in a time of crisis. Like we are right now with this Corona virus, the sequestering, we all know we're living through it, so how can we still be generous through it? So what do you think baby? I think that's a great idea. I think I was thinking about what to call this and I thought I thought of all these other titles and then I was folding laundry and I thought maybe we should call it. Can you spare a square Seinfeld reference Seinfeld reference? Can you spare? No, I can't. I can't spare a single square. Well, the good news is we're okay on toilet paper. That's fine. That's not our issue. Now. We did not hoard
Speaker 1 03:00 hundreds and hundreds of rolls. Yeah. Yeah. As soon as we had the opportunity, we'll totally go do that. Yeah, for sure. We'll wrap our entire selves in toilet paper and walk out in public.
Speaker 0 03:11 In the rain. Yeah. Just so it gets wasted. Anyway, I don't think we're going to call it. Can you spare a square then? I thought maybe we'll call it generosity in crisis, but then I thought that actually sounds like maybe that actual generosity is in crisis. Like maybe people are not being generous like it's scarce or something. Maybe. I don't know. We'll figure it out. You can title it. Um, anyway, the Seinfeld reference, I actually thought this was really funny. It made me think, so we moved to Houston like 10 years ago and we were super desperate for friends and we ended up, God gave us some really great friends, some that we were, my daughters were like FaceTiming or whatever, video calling with them earlier. And um, anyway, but we said maybe when we moved to Houston we thought we'll know who our really good friends are going to be because we can just make Seinfeld references and they get them and we don't have to explain.
Speaker 1 04:05 That's a special kind of friend you can. Yeah, you can quote, you can quote and someone else can finish. The quote didn't really work out. No, we didn't. We didn't find too many people. We have, there's maybe a few,
Speaker 0 04:15 maybe a few. Yeah. Yeah. So we, so I don't know, maybe we won't call it, can you spare a square anyway? We can spare a square right now. But as Seth pointed out, when we ordered groceries a couple of weeks ago when that was still a thing, they substituted with single ply. So you'd have to, you'd have to spare two or three squares.
Speaker 1 04:37 Yeah. Th th th that was, that was a big, a big shock is going to the grocery store and you know, and, and, and the whole aisles are, are, have been empty for, for, you know, a couple of weeks now. But the toilet paper stuff, we were able to get the delivery and so we, we, we usually get our grocery delivered, but, so that worked out well that the delivery showed up, but the substitute was single ply.
Speaker 0 04:58 I thought you were going to go off. I thought you were going to go. Yeah.
Speaker 1 05:00 Well, yeah. Yeah. That's, that's, that's really, I mean, that's a single play is like what you get at the gas station, right? You're on a road trip. There's nothing, there's nothing like, like you're at, you're at the Valero and you're telling your kids, make sure you don't actually touch the toilet seat. Um, you know, have kind of hover, right? And then you get the single ply. And that's that, that, that's the culture of Singapore. It's, it's RO is Roadtrek,
Speaker 0 05:24 right? Don't get the Valero burrito and then go into the bathroom with discipline. Okay. Yeah, we're, we're done. Okay. Sorry. So,
Speaker 1 05:31 so, so, so giving, giving, and being generous anytime when you're between churches, when you're between churches is good. Uh, in a time of crisis or in a time when your, your life is disrupted. Uh, like right now that's, that's actually, um, perfectly relevant for that conversation.
Speaker 0 05:48 Right? So this can apply obviously right now during Corona virus. But, you know, I'm thinking this also applies like this. This is ringing a lot of Houstonians back, hurricane Harvey. Um, you know, so if there's a natural disaster or if there are wildfires, even if it's not in your immediate area, um, you know, what are some ways that we can be generous? What are some ways we can spare a square? Um, when there's a crisis going on. And so again, we're using this article that I'm going to link, but I, these are still some good points. So the first one is give to your previous church or we could say in this case, give to your current church. So what are some ways, like what, what would you think babe, like giving to your current church in a time of crisis, what might that look like? Like kind of from the inside,
Speaker 1 06:38 right. So, so just to kind of, uh, set the stage for, you know, you met, you mentioned that this is really the, um, the one piece of literature or publication or copy that we've had that consistently has people are, people keep clicking on it, people are searching for, they're searching for something in this article on, on, on how to tie the one you're between churches keeps coming up. And it, uh, you know, the context was that you had been meeting with, uh, financial coaching clients and this is something that, that they had talked about people, you know, our friends had talked about that they, they wanted to tie their, they wanted to start tithing or they knew that part of their budgeting, um, their budgeting journey from <inaudible> for getting their finances back in shape, a lot of that, uh, was going to require them getting back into giving, maybe giving to charities, giving to philanthropy.
Speaker 1 07:30 Um, definitely people that are church goers would want to give to their home congregations or give to missionaries. But we were running into a lot of people that they were saying, yeah, but what do I do? Because we moved, we moved, we haven't found a new church. Um, we were between jobs. So we changed parts of the city and, and now the church that we go to isn't necessarily the one we're going to stay at. A lot of, a lot of conditions like that where where people don't really know and they're, and so maybe they're not tithing at all. Maybe they're not giving it all. And so this article was, was really intended to give some, just some very practical ideas for how you can, how you can participate in giving, um, specifically giving to church, giving to Christian ministry, even though you have, maybe you don't have a, a strict membership somewhere and you're not plugged in, uh, in a very intimate way where, where you're seeing the fruits of all, all that giving.
Speaker 1 08:24 But um, but how could you still participate? And so that first one, the idea is, is that you likely at some point were connected to a body of believers, right? Right. So maybe, maybe you, maybe you change parts of town or maybe you move States, but you're still connected to that body of believers. And even if you know, even if you left for, for different reasons, um, you may have your parents' home church or you may have, you may have a previous church or a place that you are connected that that still is in need of, of giving. And, and that's, that's a big part of the tithe is being able to provide those local bodies with, with funds. And so that's, that's, I think that's that first point is you can, you really, can you, if you change States, you can still give to the place you used to go.
Speaker 0 09:13 Yeah, for sure. And now we're talking about this, like if people, um, maybe that's not their situation where they're between churches right now, they're going to a church on a regular basis and they see that there's this giant need right there is like people right now or losing their jobs or people are, um, in a situation where they're not getting many hours or, you know, households are being disrupted all over the country. And so I think, um, you know, I'm, I'm kind of looking at that first point and saying, you can give your previous church or you can give to, you know, if that's your situation where you're not at a church, but if you're at a church you can give to your current church. And I think, you know, you can either just give extra, you know, be generous in that way. Have a conversation with your pastor.
Speaker 0 09:59 We were watching a church service last week where the pastor very specifically said, we are going to be taking care of the members in our community who are in that situation where they've lost jobs, you know, they don't have money to pay rent. Um, and so please don't forget to be generous during this time. And so I think that that's like, I think that that's something where in a crisis, especially one of this, it's like nationwide you can give to your, your current church right now and, and you're there. And so you can trust them, right. To distribute that money, to use it for their benevolence fund, to do whatever they need to do because they're going to know of needs that you don't know of. Right.
Speaker 1 10:41 Right. And, and, and there may be, you know, maybe part of the discussion is, is what you would do on your regular tide, your, the thing you do off of your paycheck. Um, the percentage wise is sealed. But there's also, uh, just giving, if you, if you're thinking about, uh, you know, you, you get a tax, you know, your tax refund or you, you, you just want to give $20 somewhere, um, you can give, you can give to your church. Uh, and especially if a lot of times there'll be ministries out of your local church that are intended to be benevolence ministries, right? Intended to go towards the elderly or towards a widows or, or, or single parents. And if you can find those places, if you can even, you know, you can write it on your check or you can, you can, you know, put it on the invoice or whatever. If you do it online, these are, these are ways that you can specifically direct, whether it's, whether it's the a full tie them out, whether it's a special offering or whether it's just $20. You'd say, Hey, I really want this to go towards this benevolence ministry.
Speaker 0 11:39 Right, right. That's good. Um, so next is give to a church that is doing good work. So again, we can talk about this in the context of, of if you're churches, I think that's pretty self explanatory. You can find a church, maybe it's one that has a televised ministry that you watch or maybe you know, it's something like that where you're gaining something from their ministry or they just have a reputation and you and you know about them. Um, I specifically want to bring up, we got an email pretty early on in the, um, we started, the sequestering started coming through and things started changing with the Kronobars social distancing, which Seth loves by the way.
Speaker 1 12:24 Yeah. My life is basically the same when I'm at home that it doesn't really look much different.
Speaker 0 12:28 Big fan of the social distance right now.
Speaker 1 12:32 You mean I don't have to put my clothes, I just wear my pajamas all day. Sweet.
Speaker 0 12:37 Yeah, he's a big fan of the social distancing. But we got an email pretty early on from one of the, one of the large churches in town where we were on the email list because our kids had done like vacation Bible school there or something like that. And, um, and they put out pretty early that they were, um, going to be giving and they had a name for this campaign, you know, regarding helping local people who were going to be financially affected. Like, man, I just feel like so many people are going to be financially devastated right now. You know, it feels that way. But they were onboard, on-point. I mean, just some of the first ones we saw and we had, um, you know, decided already that we were going to give an offering and when this email came through I just said, Hey, how about we, you know, we give over here.
Speaker 0 13:27 Like this is a large church that we recognize that we trust their ministries are doing great work. We don't go there. You know, we've had a connection I think, like I said, because of BBS or something like that. Um, but we had some money coming through and we say they already have the resources. Like I said, large church, big administration, they already have the resources where they're doing that. And so maybe your church isn't that way. Maybe you go to a kind of a small church or maybe there's, um, maybe something like that, but you can give these extra resources to a place that already has something going.
Speaker 1 13:59 Yeah. And I think you, I think that the context for that with, with the Corona virus stuff is, is there a lot of, uh, a lot of agencies, there are, there are a lot of groups that are doing really good things. Food banks, um, the public schools in Houston are, are providing meals for kids. So there's a lot of good, um, philanthropy and community oriented, uh, giving. But specifically when we, you know, my thought is when we give to a church or a Christian group, it's coming not just with the, with the helping hand, but these are people that are most likely, they're also praying over people. They are, uh, they're providing some support. It may be, you know, maybe a, um, connecting with a prayer partner, or it might be someone's community group or their life group. Uh, obviously not right now, but in another time that would be maybe someone who could bus them to their church. Uh, in, you know, invite them to, uh, to the women's group or the men's group or something like that. So, so when we, my view is, is if we have opportunity to give to a Christian group that is doing this outreach, you're kind of getting, um, maybe more bang for your buck in that you're getting the, the community oriented giving, you're getting the humanitarian part, but you're also doing that in the name of Jesus. You're doing that in the name of, um, following up and praying for people.
Speaker 0 15:21 Right. So if it's like, especially if they're helped, so if they're helping their own community members, I think that's amazing. Um, you know, they're their own membership, but, but also in something like this where it is, they're going to use this as an outreach. So you're exactly right. So, you know, someone might, they might provide a meal, they might provide rent relief or something like that, but then you can just be sure that these churches are going to be following up, you know, a couple of weeks a month, six months later. Um, you know, not stopping them, but just making sure, you know, offering, is there anything else we can do? Offering community, um, offering those kinds of things that people are, people are going to be turning to God, people are going to be turning to churches. Um, and so I think that that's really good.
Speaker 1 16:03 Yeah. And I guess just to follow up, I'd say, and it's okay if that's not, maybe that's not your home denomination. Maybe you know, maybe you're a Baptist and it's a Methodist church or, or Pentecostal or something, but, but still, I think the idea that when, when we're giving in Jesus name, um, we're really, we're really saying, especially in, in times of crisis, that the whole body of believers is United together and, and, and we like to see, at least I, I like to see that, um, that outreached arm coming from believers as much as from the local community.
Speaker 0 16:33 Yeah, for sure. No, that's a good point. All right, third, this is three of five I'm giving to missionary organizations. So first, like you wrote this, what do you mean by a missionary organization?
Speaker 1 16:47 All right. So, so missionary organization being, um, either either a specific missionary could be, could be a couple, it could be a guy or a gal or could be a kid who's raising funds to go dig Wells in, in Mexico or do you know, go to Haiti or go to, you know, go somewhere where there's a big need. It could be someone that's working in an inner city ministry, right. Uh, at, at a homeless shelter or doing street church or something like that. But, but basically a, a missions oriented group that a lot of times, uh, these, these workers that their full time job really isn't. Um, it's not nearly as stable as as yours would be. You and I, if we work in an office or if we work in, in industry, um, and even a full time pastoral ministry, which is sustained through church membership, a lot of times for that tithing, giving a missionary organization, they really rely heavily either on monthly donors or one-time givers and they do fundraising advance and things like that.
Speaker 1 17:51 But especially right now when we have a lot of people on lockdown, we have a lot of people who are, have lost their jobs. Uh, I've already started to here. You can just look on social media. You look on some of your newsletters that you get from these organizations that they really do have, uh, a legitimate concern that as giving dips, a lot of times that means they have to either have to tap into reserves or they have to cut back on the types of work they're giving. And so for those of us that are in a position where we do want to provide some giving, uh, keeping in mind that missionaries and missionary groups, uh, they are, they are relying, um, through the Lord, but they're relying on people, uh, and the Goodwill to keep them going sometimes even on a week by week basis.
Speaker 0 18:38 No, that's, that's completely true. And I'm thinking about right now, um, you and I, so as a family, we've given to missionary organizations really almost since we got married. I mean, we've, we've, we've started with one, um, missionary organization out of India. This has probably been 15 years ago or something like that. Um, early, early on we were married early on when we were married. Um, and then, you know, continued to support through various organizations and, and, and that's kind of grown and expanded as God is, um, you know, blessed us in different ways financially and we've, we've kind of put that into our budget and I'm thinking a lot of those places that we do, we do have some local, but many of those for us are international ministries, um, that are based in different countries or maybe they're based here, but a lot of the work they do is in other countries.
Speaker 0 19:32 And I think right now during this virus, when almost every single country in the world is being effected, every continent is being affected except Antarctica. Um, you'd say maybe just looking at some of those missionary organizations you're already giving to and looking on their website, do they have a special need right now? Um, you know, one thing I'm thankful, uh, for example, we recently started giving to compassion international and they've been really good to kind of email us updates of the area that our child is in and, and stuff like this. But you know, normally they send out emails or you can get on their website and just see, do they have any needs. And I think that you can kind of up maybe if you're already giving to a missionary organization, this would probably be a great time to up your giving and see what they have, what they have need for in their specific area.
Speaker 0 20:23 Yeah. Yeah. So missionary organizations number three, number four. Oh, that's a good one. Give to a transitional pastor. I love that. We've known a bunch of them. We have known a bunch of transitional pastors and um, this man, this is like one of the most fun ones I think because a lot of our, um, we've known friends like actually like known these people in real life. Not, not just come to be a guest or our church, although that's super fun too. Um, where either their organization requires them to earn or to fundraise like a hundred percent of their salary or sometimes they'll do like a matching but their organization. But again, right now I think this is a great time to reach out to look and see what are the, some of those transitional pastors needs. Because I would say most of them that we've known, their organizations require them to have reserves in a certain amount or a certain amount of emergency funding. Um, you know, a savings to be put away. But I would say we wouldn't want them to necessarily have to dip into this because giving dipped. So this might be a good time to reach out and see if they have specific needs. You know,
Speaker 1 21:38 and it might, and it might even be, uh, you know, we have, we have a friend who's a pastor at a local church and they're getting ready to transition, move across country into a new role. And it's not a, um, it's, it's not a funded role from the church. So they're going to have to raise their own money to fill this position until it became, becomes permanent. And you know, that's, and we've reached out to them and, and there, there are others we know like that where you say, Hey, what's, what's going to happen? Is this going to delay? Obviously you can't move in some of the, some of the homeless mystics, but are you still, are you still getting paid at your home church while you're raising funds to go to this other one? Or does your contract run out right now and now you're, you're dipping in.
Speaker 1 22:23 Yeah. Maybe you're dipping into some reserves to survive during the, uh, during the social distancing period, which, you know, could be weeks, could be months, it could be, it could be longer. So reaching out to some of these, these people, and maybe it's, maybe it's youth pastor, maybe it's someone working for a pair ministry. Could, you know, could be a, could be an evangelist or, or something like that as well. Um, but, but we've, yeah, we've seen a lot of people and, and a lot of times these are people with families and they're not, they're not making a ton of money, but they have a heart for ministry and they're willing to go do the kind of work, uh, that wouldn't, wouldn't normally be funded as, as an associate pastor or a a youth minister role.
Speaker 0 23:03 Right. Yeah. So this is, this is really good. I, that's, this is, this is a fun one for me because I think that people who are in this role, um, Oh my goodness, often you just, you just see their passion. You see their excitement for the Lord. And I just, I just love it so much. So I think that's a good one all the time when you're, when you're between churches and especially during your crisis time like this. Um, and last one, number five, give to a local homeless shelter or orphanage or women's shelter. Gee whiz right now. I just,
Speaker 1 23:37 yeah, right. Right now, right now. So much more stuff is, is, um, we are, we are aware of so many different, um, but yeah, you know, even even things like, like, yeah, like homeless shelters or, or, um, women's ministries that take care of, of single moms or, or, um, you know, pregnancy shelters and these, these are the things that while we're, while we're kind of sitting in our rooms worried about, uh, when we're gonna run out of one ply there, there are women who are still wondering how they're going to get formula for their babies.
Speaker 0 24:10 Oh my goodness. And, and, um, one of the gals I know helps with, uh, foster care kind of helps, um, from a private nonprofit getting supplies to foster families. And, you know, I saw a post from her on social media saying, this is not like foster care doesn't stop right now. You know, like, children are still, um, coming out of their homes. They're still being placed with foster families and they still have real needs right now. You know, so, so that's something, I think it's, it's hard because on the one side we're seeing that life kind of stops, like it's kind of paused for, for so many of us. And then I think what we don't see sometimes are some of these other families and or individuals who would be experiencing kind of crisis on top of a crisis right now. You know, someone is already homeless or someone is already, um, you know, jobless or someone is already, um, you know, struggling and, and dealing with a foster care situation and then all of a sudden they have this on top of whatever it is that they were already dealing with. And so I think that that's super important in some way that we can have our eyes open to be generous right now to say, right now we're all inconvenienced. Right now our lives are all paused for a moment, but there are people who were experiencing a pause for a different reason before the sequestering started.
Speaker 1 25:41 Yeah. And I don't think, you know, we're certainly not saying that it's not, it's not our mentality that you've got to do a little bit of everything. That's not the idea. The idea isn't for us and it's never been for us that, that they're, you know, there's a whole pile of sugar when it comes to giving and helping people. And yeah, you should help the nursing home and you should hope, help the, uh, the kids raising money for this. And, and like, there's so much need and there's so many opportunities. But I think, I think the message is, is right now, could you find one for sure, right? If you don't, if you don't have one that you're giving to, um, could you, could you find one group, maybe it's, you know, maybe it's the firefighters, maybe it's the fire station, maybe it's, uh, maybe, yeah, maybe it's a retirement home. It's in your neighborhood. Maybe, you know, maybe it's something else, but is it, could you just find one or two things where you could just ask what, what's the need? Maybe they're just collecting funds or maybe they're, maybe they're looking for some sort of a, you know, item.
Speaker 0 26:44 Right. And I think, I think too right now that's so good. And that's, that's a really good segue to where I kind of wanted to end this because I think that it's really, I would say, I was going to say giving money is easy. And I think what I mean to say is giving money is really convenient, right? Like most of these organizations that we're talking about are these places where we've mentioned giving money is super convenient. You can do it from home while you're on lockdown while you're being sequestered. You just, you know, fire up your computer and send it. You can send it from an app, from your phone. I mean, gee whiz, so giving money in super convenient, but it's not always easy and it's not always in the budget, right? It's, it's, we're at a time right now where things feel really unstable for a lot of people.
Speaker 0 27:26 And so I think, you know, what can you do if you're in a place where you can't really give extra money right now or you don't have the extra money to give? I think what you're saying is kind of pick one of these and um, and give something that you can give, you know, uh, I was on a zoom call the other night with some of my girlfriends and one of them is in New York state and she was saying her kids are writing cards and drawing pictures to send to the elderly people who are in these care homes where they can't have visitors and they can't leave that, that costs you nothing. You know, that costs me nothing. Actually. I'm putting that on the list for our kids to do tomorrow. So if you're listening to kiddos that's on the list, um, you know, but it's like, that's, praise God, the mail is still running right now.
Speaker 0 28:10 These heroes that are out every single day walking around everybody's houses. Um, you know, that, that's the cost of a stamp and a Manila envelope and some paper to really, really cheer up. You know, these people who are in these homes, they can look at these drawings from kids. I mean, who doesn't want that, you know. But same thing. Even before we used to take our firefighters treats, we would make rice crispy treats, you know, make them and cartons and go over. And that may not be something we can do in person right now, but maybe, and they may not want your homemade goodies right now. I don't know. They may not.
Speaker 1 28:43 Yeah, I mean that. Yeah. No, obviously I wash your hands before you write the cards and yeah. And then maybe, maybe cookies is not ideal right now.
Speaker 0 28:52 Up an extra, an extra box of little Debbie's and drop it off on the doorstep. You're per firefighter, you're your first responder. That's another group right now where it's like anytime a crisis hits your first responders are on the front lines. Um, I have another good girlfriend who is making masks right now, um, for the mask shortage for the healthcare providers. And um, and that's something that's not money, but she has a skillset. She has all the materials at home. You know, I chatted with a nurse friend of mine over text this week and she said, it's, it's real. You know, so there's a lot of ways that I think we can be creative and we can be generous. And it's exactly like you said, we're not saying we're not giving to all of these at one time right now in crisis, but it's like choose one or two.
Speaker 0 29:37 I think it's just a way to open our eyes, especially emotionally when we can't really get out of the house much right now. I think it is a tendency to either turn in and see we see ourselves and when I turn out, I'm looking at the news and I think that this is a way where we can turn our eyes out and love people, um, through this generosity, whether it's drawing a card or a mask or, or, you know, shooting some money on the, on the internet. Um, I think it's a way to get our eyes off of us and onto the people around us who could use help. It's a way to create community.
Speaker 1 30:16 Yeah. And that's, I think that's really important. I think you don't have to, you don't have to look far right now for bad news. You don't, you know, there's, we've, we've been exposed to the craziness and, you know, people doing all kinds of weird, weird and, and unhealthy things out of fear and panic. Um, and I, and I guess, yeah, just consuming that, constantly consuming that and bingeing on Netflix is a way to get through this period of time, but it probably is going to erode at some mental health and stability and some emotional, um, alertness. But I, I liked that idea of, of if you can find somebody in your community, just find one or two, um, might be the next door neighbor. It might be, uh, might be a guy, you know, we had a guy in our neighborhood who said he lived next door to, um, some retired people.
Speaker 1 31:07 And his job was just to kinda check in on him, see if they needed their light bulbs changed. Right. And that's the thing you can do if you, if you, you know, some of your neighbors might not be able to get to the store. So you could do a store run for them. Um, but, but part of this idea of saying we know that if we're, if we're on on shut-in or social distancing for more than just a week or two, we're going to have to start focusing on some positive things and uh, what, you know, what, what is more positive thing to do then to kind of treat people like we would think Jesus would want to be treated and like he would treat them and, and that's just give them, give them something they need, pray for them. Uh, even just even just be the kind of people that lift hopes of our neighbors.
Speaker 0 31:53 Right. For sure. No, for sure. This has been good baby.
Speaker 1 31:56 Yeah. Hey, first time for everything.
Speaker 0 31:58 First time for everything. First time for everything. I'm excited about it. So there it is. I'll link the original article. If you guys want to go back over those five points or Hey, if you have some ways that you are being generous or you've seen people be generous, uh, reach out, uh,
[email protected] and I would love to hear what you guys are doing. You can comment on this post, uh, on the podcast and yeah, share this one with your friends too, and we'll all be a little bit more generous the next time we can see each other in real life. So thank you again so much for listening. Don't forget to subscribe so you won't miss an episode. Share the link with your, you can visit
[email protected] and until next time, this is Alexis Piseti remembering to do well for ourselves so we can do good for others.
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